Thanks for starting the ball rolling in your usual classy fashion, Sam. Not sure I can offer the same level of thoughtfulness (it's a gorgeous sunny morning and I'm still waking up) but I'll do my best to hang with the big dogs.
There's so much you've raised that I'd like to touch on but before I do, let me also add that FSG editor Lorin Stein will be appearing in these parts on Wednesday via a Q&A I'm conducting with him, so don't miss that either.
First, on the subject of re-reading books, an anecdote. Many, many years ago, when I was toiling in one of those endless succession of office jobs we all know so well, I worked with a nice old Southern gent named Bill. He was fast approaching retirement, kind of coasting a bit. He and I could not have been more different - a liberal and a conservative; a city boy and a shitkicker; opera and country music. Your basic red and blue scenario. And yet we became good pals and were quite fond of each other.
One day I mentioned to him that I began each year re-reading The Great Gatsby. Every January I would sit down with that 50,000-word marvel and read it in a single Sunday. And every single time, without fail, something new leapt to my atttention. Now, Bill could not for his life understand why anyone would waste time - those were his words, "waste time" - reading something he'd already read. I countered with the old standby "If it's not worth reading twice, it's not worth reading once." I urged him to try it, to humor me, which he did. (The book he chose is lost to my advanced case of CRS.)
I can say with all modesty that I changed Bill's life that day.
He came back the following week full of excitement - he'd done exactly what I suggested and had experienced a beloved book of his youth through entirely new eyes. And he was off and running now with a long list of books he wanted to read again. For all I know, he's busy filling his retirement with re-reading.
I'm now reading Ticknor for the fifth time and I'm struck anew by the miracle of voice that Heti pulls off. I remember some time ago, Steve Mitchelmore posted something (wish I could find the link) about challenging us to really be able to explain why we enjoyed a book so much, not to simply rely on tired platitudes. And as an NYU-reject and auto-didact, I've always worried that the reasons I embrace certain books won't stand up to scrutiny. But I know that voice comes first for me - hence my love of Banville. (I actually think he would enjoy Ticknor.)
I'm glad you see the humor in the book, Sam. I worried about that, wondering if folks would get just how blackly funny it is. And, like you ("I am friends like that"), I was perhaps slightly troubled by just how many Ticknor-ian tendencies I seem to embody. Which I also suspect is part of Heti's sly joke - what writer hasn't known envy and bitterness? Seems to go with the territory.
You also talk about length. I'm on record lamenting the modern, youthful tendency toward bloat, as though heft equals significance. (See Vollmann, William T or Wallace, David F. Sorry, Ed!) There's also, frankly, a presumption on behalf of the author in dropping 1400 pages into my lap. You'd damn well better be sure you're going to deliver something extraordinary and not merely prolix, given the claim on my time you're making. (Now, it's true I' m a slow-ish reader so this might feed my own bitterness.)
But Ticknor - like Gatsby - proves you needn't be long to be deep. You know I'm a screenwriter and one of the tricks of economy we employ is that it's enough to write INT. MANSION - DAY because people will bring their own ideas of the scene to that description. We use our own experiences to fill in the blanks. I know plenty of minimalist novels rely on similar tropes. But how many of us have experiences of 19th century Boston? And still, in her short novel, Heti has given us a rich and fully realized portrait of that world. Do you remember the scene in which Ticknor waits in the kitchen while Prescott's wife Claire fixes him a meal? That kitchen is as vivid to me as my own.
Interestingly, on the question of long v. short, I've also had an interesting email exchange regarding Etgar Keret's new collection The Nimrod Flip-out, which is outperforming expectations despite very little review coverage thus far. I suggested that it's because (a) the trade paper edition is considerably cheaper than a new hardcover and (b) the stories are very short - 1-2 pages each. Couple that with an interesting title and an eye-catching cover and it seems that perhaps it's bringing in younger readers - folks who don't have 30 bucks to spend on a hardcover, and whose attention spans click with the short short stories. So perhaps even the notion of fiction readers liking long works is on its way out.
All yours, Sam.
Gosh, you know, I sort of feel sorry for people who don't reread books (my personal fave reread is To Kill A Mockingbird). My mother doesn't, and I can't fathom how she goes through life without picking up an old favorite and discovering something new. I think, especially, that books with many layers benefit from rereading -- Ticknor certainly falls into that category. You want to savor language, voice, story, even humor, and sometimes one pass through an novel isn't enough.
I'm a bit bemused, of course, by the long-versus-short book debate. I guess I don't have a preference (as I look at the stacks on my desk, it's an even mix long and short). Short, I will say, is often more difficult because of the author must employ economy of language. Long books allow the author to indulge every whim -- and that's not necessarily a good thing. Hmm, maybe I'm a bit more of a short person, now that I consider it more fully. Or maybe just old.
Posted by: Kassia | Apr 24, 2006 at 11:58 AM
I totally agree, K. And I realize, reading this back, that I might come off anti-long novel. I'm not. Not remotely. Underworld might be my favorite American novel of the last half of the 20th century. And I love the old Russians, too. Lots more. Can't think of nicer way to spend vacation than Proust in hand.
What I can't abide is needless length. Nervous twitter and filler that goes on for page after page, adding little other than a virtuoso display of the writer's brilliance. It all feels self-indulgent to me after a while. So, just so I'm clear, yes - love a good long book. But it can't be long for length's sake, as I do feel happens far too often these days.
Posted by: TEV | Apr 24, 2006 at 12:15 PM
Speaking this weekend at the University of Denver, Lydia Davis noted that one of the attributes of Proust's writing that was confirmed for her when translating Swann's Way was how extraordinarily tight it was: something that might not have come through quite as clearly for those who read the gorgeous but rather more ornate Scott Moncrieff versions. Proust, Davis realized, was among the most concise of writers! And somehow or other, strange as it might initially sound, it strikes me that Proust's concision and Heti's are not so very far apart. Which is to say that her line, like Proust's, doesn't proceed via any kind of fumbling or flailing -- it is carefully built out of neatly interlocking component parts. The seams are so tight they're virtually unnoticeable. It's an impressive piece of work on many levels.
Posted by: Laird Hunt | Apr 24, 2006 at 02:11 PM
Laird, I think you're right on in your comments. And yes, Proust often can be taken as being languid, loose, prolix in its way. But I do think there's a discipline behind every word - a discipline that's also fiercely at work in Ticknor - that makes it extremely difficult to eliminate anything. Contrast that the with the endless, tangential digressions of the some of the authors I note above, books one could quite handily take a weed whacker to ...
Posted by: TEV | Apr 24, 2006 at 02:24 PM
A response, Mr. Sarvas, on the issue of heft and significance -- specifically, as it pertains to "Ticknor," is, as time permits, forthcoming. :)
Posted by: ed | Apr 24, 2006 at 03:52 PM
Expected nothing less - would have been disappointed, in fact, by your absence!
Posted by: TEV | Apr 24, 2006 at 03:56 PM
Heh...when you diss WTV **and** DFW in the same post, I can't let that stand. :)
Posted by: ed | Apr 24, 2006 at 04:38 PM
Very interesting, Davis's comment. I think I have to retire to my cork-lined room to contemplate it further. I would have loved to see her speak, btw. Her Proust is sublime. She also writes some mean short fiction herself, if you don't know.
Posted by: Sam | Apr 24, 2006 at 07:01 PM
Indeed, we had Davis out (at Denver) for her fiction -- Proust was a great extra. I wish I'd thought to recommend Ticknor to her -- I think she would love it. Well, there's always email.
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