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Aug 08, 2007

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nicola griffith

I suppose it all depends on how you define 'norm'. There are days when I think that in literary (as opposed to genre) fiction, men are the Norm and women, all women, no matter how they behave, are Other. Where is the men's fiction in the bookshop? Where is the straight fiction?

As for Kick and Aud, I think it would be easy enough to build a relationship that is essentially sound but to maintain Aud's edge. For one thing, Kick has MS. They are going to have a lot of issues. (And as we know, the way Aud deals with 'issues' doesn't resemble the way normal people handle them /grin/.) In fact, the scenes of dire Audness that are already half written in my head revolve around just such stuff. (Plus a few knife fights and pretty girls and explosions...)

And, yes, women and violence--that is, women giving violence, not just receiving it--definitely makes readers uncomfortable. I still astonishes me just how many people are still unwilling to view women as fully human and capable of all that entails

Colleen

What I'd like to know is why women giving violence makes readers uncomfortable but women on the receiving end of violence is accepted (if not expected).

That, I think, is the biggest question of all that I got from your book.

nicola griffith

Violence is a tool and a habit for individuals and groups, a handy reinforcer of the status quo. (For explanation of the status quo we'd end up getting all muddled up in feminist theory and evolutionary psychology.) Fiction often exaggerates aspects of real life for effect. That could be one answer.

Then the question becomes: is it really an exaggeration--or just a reflection?

Either way, it's another of those norms, which means it probably won't change anytime soon. People don't like change that much, in my opinion.

I suppose in the end it all comes down to what story we want to tell ourselves about the world. I like the story where women, individuals in general, fight back and have great sex and more than enough money to eat every day. I'll keep telling it.

Colleen

"I suppose in the end it all comes down to what story we want to tell ourselves about the world. I like the story where women, individuals in general, fight back and have great sex and more than enough money to eat every day. I'll keep telling it."

You just put a huge smile on my face - I look forward to more of the stories you want to tell!

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As for the Aud/Kick thing, call me a child of the television era, but if Griffith is going to continue writing this character, then allowing her settle into a comfortable day-to-day thing will take some of the edge off the character. No matter how much we all crave it in our real lives, blissful happiness in fiction makes for boring reading. Better to maintain uncomfortable, unstable tension between the characters (but also better not to maintain said tension for too long as it becomes cliche rather than enlightening).

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Either way, it's another of those norms, which means it probably won't change anytime soon. People don't like change that much, in my opinion.

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